After I first wrote about boomer shooters final 12 months on Steam Deck and likewise on Swap, other than New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical title was Andrew Hulshult who has achieved some wonderful music over time. He lately was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having wished to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to speak with him on name for just a few hours to debate recreation soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s enjoying, and much more. This interview was achieved on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Identical to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than typical, and that is possible the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us a little bit bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my title’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as nicely. I like to simply write music on my own generally when it’s not for a recreation or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the recreation and movie business doing sound design, soundtracks, and generally voice appearing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem mission and likewise Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was really simply type of like, I believe that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here a little bit bit. So I believe Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I believe he nonetheless does, mainly he was remaking maps in the course of Unreal Engine 3 of like a number of the authentic Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I believe certainly one of them that obtained a variety of hits was like the entire 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as nicely. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. You already know, like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Perhaps this might be enjoyable. Like, I actually appreciated Duke 3D again within the day. And he stated, yeah, positive. You already know, like if you wish to remake a number of the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I wished to type of discover ways to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began type of remaking a number of the previous Duke 3D tracks. That type of spawned into, you already know, not quite a bit, not quite a bit was achieved in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was similar to, you already know, like some odds and ends stuff. In some way that was Apogee, Terry Nagy, head searching us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on known as Rise of the Triad when you guys need to give it a strive. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these folks now are like, you already know, on the, we had been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However mainly after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, stated, hey, we’re . And Fred stated sure on our aspect. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of once I lastly obtained an interview with him, I believe it was simpler for me to satisfy Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that achieved, I had New Blood lined. I lately additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Factor, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly occurring.
We each snort.
TA: I keep in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how whenever you had been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you had been in demand within the business. So when that door closed, all of the sudden you had like a, like hundreds of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some big titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I need to understand how you’ve modified as a musician and as an expert from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s a fantastic query. Man, beginning off within the business with, you already know, doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we had been, what we had been simply speaking about, it was a very contemporary expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re stepping into. After which a variety of instances you’re like, I don’t even know what I must be getting paid, you already know, like you’ve got an thought, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading by these waters is attention-grabbing and likewise harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve discovered has been all from, you already know, tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to make it possible for we do that once more, you already know.
It’s studying your complete time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on quite a bit, which is, you already know, they only, they need to make actually, actually superior, lovely artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing fallacious with that. You must, that must be the core precept that you simply do. However it’s a must to just remember to receives a commission to be able to proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t need to work within the business anymore. And that, to return to what you had been speaking about with, I didn’t understand how a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from the whole lot proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be achieved with video games. I used to be like, you already know what, like there’s not a variety of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to try to do one thing else. And I didn’t understand till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals wished to rent me. And like, it’s a type of bizarre issues the place like, I’m positive you may in all probability relate. When you’ve got a job, like a day job, when you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you will get sucked into that total cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this might be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing nicely for them. They wished to provide me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of a number of different issues in life. And that’s type of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing unhealthy about them. It’s simply whenever you’re working for an organization moderately than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do need to stroll on landmines. You do need to get blown up a few instances till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they stated, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I assume I’ll go determine this out now. After which unexpectedly, DUSK, you already know, like that’s actually the following factor that and AMID EVIL had been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get a variety of questions on recreation music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this entire factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the largest false impression that folks each within the business and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The largest false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you may’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal type of factor, a few of my mates and a few of my household are like, you’ve got the best job. I’m like, you haven’t any f***ing thought. You already know, stroll in my sneakers for a day and let’s discuss once more. Yeah, it’s actually tough since you, you actually need to trick your self into stepping into no matter environment or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed the whole lot out. That is their imaginative and prescient. It’s important to step into it and it’s a must to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally need to have the boldness to say, nicely, that is what I believe we must always do and why we must always do it. And there’s a variety of, there’s a variety of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s complicated in a variety of other ways. The artwork aspect of it’s arduous sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is tough already, however then, um, explaining to folks why you need to go this route and generally even arguing to get that route could be a trouble in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the most important false impression is that it’s straightforward and that it’s not straightforward. I swear to God, so many instances my mates are like, ah, you’ve obtained the best job. I’m like, no, man, I stay, I, I threw 100 pound packing containers from 6 AM to 4 PM. And generally I miss that.
Whiskey and occasional fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs had been composed between 9pm and 3am.
The extra you already know
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally need to discuss quite a bit about your gear, however earlier than that, I believe we must always focus on a number of the recreation particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I wished to reference. That is fairly an previous one (linked above). Nicely, I really didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till lately. I had heard about it and I had heard that a variety of my mates purchased that launch. They stated that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when of us made an enormous deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I wished to correctly strive it then. I wished to speak about your thought course of between like, you already know, redoing these tracks and arising with your personal flare on them, as a result of anybody who, not less than any fan of yours, in the event that they hearken to that, they realize it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The initially factor was to ensure you respect your elders. I wished to make it possible for no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served the whole lot that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already entering into one thing nicely established again within the day. Individuals are very accustomed to this. When you f*** it up, you might be toast. That was my first skilled gig. Moving into that type of strain.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and steel stuff predominantly? That’s the type of music I hearken to on a regular basis. They stated let’s strive it. Even Terry was like you need to do it.
Actually they only kinda gave me free reign to provide it a strive on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Method” and I keep in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my total profession. By no means had a nasty piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I keep in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Method”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the proper route but it surely appears like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t blended accurately. I used to be simply excited at hand him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a type of moments the place I’m going to need to discover ways to settle for suggestions even when it isn’t from a musician and I do know that they imply nicely. I remixed a few issues and I believe that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he stated it was means higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It type of simply got here from the guts. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is entering into another person’s sneakers, I’ve to keep in mind that the supply materials comes first, you then put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you may put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and cling and embellish, however simply make it possible for the home remains to be the identical home that folks keep in mind.
Now to deal with the Tweet above, Whiskey and occasional fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs had been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would commonly take me all the way down to a bar known as Hula Fingers. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me house and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one observe in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to copy a selected sound and it was the proper strategy to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s purported to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I like that track.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other recreation I didn’t actually play till lately was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that recreation due to your soundtrack. I obtained it once I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was wanting on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually look after a lot of it, however the music was nice. I type of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply steel albums from Andrew Hulshult moderately than devoted recreation soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing steel into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s a fantastic query too like really yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting quite a bit with simply you already know making huge atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you may hear on that soundtrack when you obtained far sufficient, laughs, but additionally like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually wished to begin dialing up you already know my very own sound and my very own writing and you already know I’d already achieved the quilt stuff I wished to need to present folks what what I might do and so yeah that’s type of actually the place my introduction to love my very own authentic items began coming into place, so yeah that’s really proper. I by no means even considered that that’s the place that began and likewise like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the tip of 2013 is when growth began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem recreation earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down huge time at that time, and there’s a variety of stuff that by no means made it possibly I’ll put that up on Twitter in some unspecified time in the future however there’s a variety of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was a little bit too aggressive you already know however that stuff would later present up in DOOM you already know. laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, the whole lot was actually good steel, and this was in all probability across the time I used to be primarily listening to steel earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went by this section once I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which obtained a seven string guitar, and ultimately obtained into Meshuggah. It obtained me enthusiastic about how once I hearken to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every recreation and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply steel anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you’ve got that concern that everybody is simply going to anticipate steel from you whenever you’re behind a selected soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that generally. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they had been you already know like, as a result of I don’t need to be like I don’t need to be like straight up often known as steel man you already know like I like steel I like enjoying it I’ll make these information all day lengthy as folks so long as folks will hearken to it and even when they gained’t I’ll in all probability make them, however yeah I like to color with completely different brushes like particularly once I grow old, like I actually take pleasure in mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the boldness now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a means out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and chances are high if I prefer it, I can in all probability present it to some individuals who will dig it as nicely. I’m so glad to listen to that you simply’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly completely different. I imply if somebody’s not into steel possibly they suppose nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you may completely inform that DUSK was making an attempt to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I believe it has certainly one of my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I need to transfer to AMID EVIL. I like the soundtrack to the primary recreation, however I need to ask concerning the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is type of like a private matter as a result of I consider you had been going by a household emergency through the time whenever you had been recording the soundtrack, proper? After I was enjoying Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, every time I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t suppose I’ve been capable of sit down and digest it that means but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m positive that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I believe it was on New 12 months’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New 12 months’s Eve. It was the 12 months earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway by engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart had been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, We’ve got a extremely, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. They usually’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I believe it’s Medicare. I can’t keep in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you will get on Medicare. And you already know, like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they obtained nice care, obtained taken care of. However it was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the course of COVID. So like every time he obtained, it was proper in the course of the massive Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he obtained admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days they usually really needed to sedate him for just a few days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they obtained to some extent the place they stated we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing quite a bit on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that previous like enjoying with a band and writing songs for you type of vibe getting in. And a variety of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like obtained a variety of power behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s a variety of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has a variety of that as nicely. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my most important outlet for some time. You have got one thing to stay up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have a variety of rigidity and a variety of feelings tied to my father virtually passing away and me making an attempt to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t considered that.
TA: The opposite factor concerning the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular track I need to contact on: Splitting Time. This track is attention-grabbing for just a few causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite recreation trailers just like the track used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m undecided when you’ve seen it. However extra attention-grabbing than that’s I used to be enjoying Avenue Fighter 6 with a pal of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I stated it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he wished to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my pal stated “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I wished to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that track?
AH: No I didn’t really. However there could be little hints of that backwards and forwards as a result of gosh, there are moments once I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I believed Mick did such a fantastic job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is precisely what I’ve been making an attempt to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to hearken to. I believe he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other recreation I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of once I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I must play extra video games with this man’s achieved the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this recreation? I purchased it and appreciated the music much more than the sport.
AH: That entire soundtrack slaps, man. He did a improbable job on that.
If you understand @AndrewHulshult put his entire bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as an alternative of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ Residence (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this could possibly be your personal steel album. I don’t even suppose it must be associated to this recreation. And that is one other recreation I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s type of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the recreation and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than enjoying the sport and I used to be like, OK, I must get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I need to simply convey up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is attention-grabbing for Nightmare Reaper. After I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to convey it up every time I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: Each time Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. Each time he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we’d simply go off backwards and forwards as a result of he confirmed me a recreation that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Nicely, let me know when you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be concerned about working with me on this?” And I stated, “Yeah, I believe that might be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a steel report from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve obtained good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight steel report.” I used to be like, “Nicely, it will possibly’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “However it’ll be largely that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a recreation. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, you already know, screaming over high of the whole lot as nicely.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I might have written at the moment. You already know, as you go along with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And you already know, however like at the moment, for positive, that’s what you’ll have gotten for a steel report. I believe that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and likewise preserving the soundtrack dynamic for a recreation then?
AH: Um, play by it a variety of instances the place you may determine the place you may have rests and lulls. And the place any individual’s gonna probably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you simply your self wouldn’t become bored with. And that’s nonetheless attention-grabbing when it comes to like, you already know, like an ambient observe or like a low power observe that also strikes a little bit bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which try to make a bit that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive power or, uh, simply increased power for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to think about it as like, you’re gluing two or three completely different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a light-weight fight, and it has a heavy fight. They usually’re structured in triggers all through that recreation. So I’ve to think about how this ambient works with this low fight track after which work with this excessive fight track. Or this heavy fight track. And do all of them transfer nicely between one another, um, when you had been to simply crossfade them at random instances, you already know? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a type of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the following recreation I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even keep in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I keep in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for overview, however was blown away by the music. I keep in mind I even joked about that when I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like the whole lot boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus appears like steel, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier on the whole. It really works nicely with the aesthetic however I believe Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken quite a bit about Prodeus, however I wished to know what your favourite observe is from that and whether or not you may give us an attention-grabbing anecdote from composing which individuals may not learn about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is unquestionably my favourite one. Like, for positive. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely wished me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went by, like, this entire nightmare the place I needed to pull your complete soundtrack down throughout your complete, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which after they had been getting nearer to launch they had been like, “Hey, we need to… we need to… we wish, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Nicely, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.
We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they had been engaged on when it comes to, like, the degrees and the whole lot that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unimaginable!” So I obtained actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which was issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply making an attempt to think about the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That entire soundtrack is superior. Like, that entire soundtrack, like, it was in-built an attention-grabbing time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s obtained these actually attention-grabbing tangents of, uh, the second half of the report’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at house and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, when it comes to my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my power was targeted on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, you already know? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I believe that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I believed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gasoline is likely one of the solely instances that I’ve been…Nicely, it was one of many first instances I’d achieved it in the meanwhile. The place I’d taken an thought and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, you already know, inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit in every single place. It seemed like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually need to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, possibly even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video every time they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I need to take that and make a bit of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there’s the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s known as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s really utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that type of appears like a drum machine a little bit bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digital camera, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse backwards and forwards by the beat. After which, you already know, in a while the music is like a variety of guitar stuff to go along with it and the whole lot, however all that stuff that’s happening with the synthesizer is all based mostly round, you already know, like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
Each time I obtained achieved with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an thought, like an idea thought for a bit of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually pleased with that.
TA: Are you able to say something concerning the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s completely different or attention-grabbing or ought to we simply anticipate one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m undecided in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom recreation stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout in all probability someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I believe in a current interview the place you spoke concerning the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you may’t discuss a lot about it, however I, don’t need to know concerning the soundtrack particularly, I’ll look forward to the film to return out, however I need to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the funds out there for the soundtrack modified the way you’re capable of method music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Fully completely different. Like, I believed that, I believed that I’d have the ability to stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this gained’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a very completely different route. The place I might know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a bit of music right here, let’s put a bit of music right here, let’s try this.” I can try this with Mark, however they’re utterly completely different conversations. One is, you already know, I do know precisely what’s purported to be occurring within the recreation right here, that is, you already know, you’re choosing up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I could get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a unique emotion. So now we have to speak about these issues backwards and forwards earlier than I make a bit of music. So it’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be trustworthy with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very nicely. And can, uh, commonly make choices once I hand him a bit of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, you already know, generally we should reduce these backwards and forwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we will, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, you already know, like, possibly I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, probably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I might have achieved. Like, how are you this good at enhancing these things?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been improbable to work with.
The third is concerning the funds for the film soundtrack and the way it modifications the way it impacts composition? Budgets had been quite a bit greater. I’ll simply, I’ll simply preserve it at that. They had been, they had been, they had been a lot greater. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, attributable to, um, you already know, like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went by. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me all the way down to Austin and Mark stated, “Hey, you already know, why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds really actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I might go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, you already know, what’s happening in entrance of me, like, 50 ft in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and actually, um, I’m really about to leap on a name as a result of I believe they want yet another, yet another piece of music.
I’m gonna leap on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I believe they want yet another piece of music. Um, but it surely’s, it’s simply been quite a bit. There’s quite a bit there. And it’s choosing the feelings that go the place. So, like, there can be, I wrote all these songs for, you already know, um, catching a vibe of despair, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for rigidity, and this, and this, and now we have this big palette to simply select from and choose the place we wish issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I might agree on with video games, but it surely’s simply, there’s the amount that, like, we’ve achieved with stuff is like, whoa, that’s quite a bit! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s speak about your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that really the primary time you probably did any kind of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you could possibly, you could possibly argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than the rest, I really feel like. And, like, that type of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, it’s a must to keep inside these boundaries of restricted expertise. And it was actually, like, you already know, select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, you already know, triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits based mostly off of that and, like, white noise and the whole lot. And, yeah, that was, that was attention-grabbing.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” You already know, like, utterly make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that folks keep in mind probably the most, you already know? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these backwards and forwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad folks prefer it.
TA: I believe, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Swap launch. So once I began enjoying that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I seemed it up and I’m like, “In fact they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however when you had, like, limitless time and assets, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And when you would, which one would you choose?
AH: Gosh. Which one can be probably the most attention-grabbing is absolutely the, uh, the query there. I believe the one that might be probably the most attention-grabbing if I had been to do this can be in all probability AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot happening in a few of these, it might be, it might be a variety of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which might be, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which all the way down to, like, 8-bit, you already know? I believe that that might match very well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a problem. Yeah, and time. Time’s the most important one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering certainly one of your previous soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you simply’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to do this for ROTT if Apogee can be concerned about it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than the rest. I believe it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they’ll open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, you already know? When’s the proper time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Wreck, I believe is a recreation you composed a very long time in the past, not less than in gaming, like, just a few years in the past, and it lastly launched this 12 months. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I believe they in all probability wouldn’t anticipate it to be you after they hearken to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply steel, like, it’s good to get that into your head, like, that appears like a type of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was attention-grabbing backwards and forwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I believe he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I wished straight up, like, virtually no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he wished some guitar blended in there, and like, we might butt heads backwards and forwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out a little bit bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I believe we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was a little bit, a little bit extra powerful, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, you already know, as folks know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in direction of about midway by, possibly a little bit, even a little bit sooner than that, and I might see a few of that occuring in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s arduous to make artwork for when you already know that the product itself is having some issues. However I believe Christalynne Pyle did job with wrapping the whole lot up in direction of the tip of it, which was a activity in and of itself, for positive. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I believe Fred wished like, like straight up, like actually excessive steel tracks at one level. I believe they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this recreation. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that the whole lot in the long run was capable of have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that recreation. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that might have, that might have been useful, but additionally on the identical time, that’s an enormous what if. You already know, like, as a result of there’s two issues that it’s a must to think about. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. You already know, what are the constraints that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work nicely, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take folks out of it?
As a result of everyone remembers just like the OG Quake having like, you already know, each map had its track. Nicely, I say that. It was a disc working that simply performed a bunch of music. However mainly, each map had a track for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I believe it’s cool. I believe it’s, it’s, it’s obtained some actually attention-grabbing moments in it the place like, certainly one of them the place I used to be, I simply stated, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar by a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s certainly one of my favourite items from that. I believe that’s in direction of the tip. However, um, yeah, it was a little bit little bit of a wrestle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went by it. I had enjoyable, and I believe that everyone that labored on it was fairly pleased with it by the tip.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program really discuss to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio a complete bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from folks that work there that are actually, like, I think about nice mates, the place they’d attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they’d be saying, you already know, hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be at all times similar to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, you already know? Um, and I, you already know, way back to that, I used to be similar to, hey, when you ever, you already know, when you ever, when you ever want music, let me know, you already know? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, you already know, like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I believe it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the 12 months earlier than, or one thing like that, after they actually began exhibiting a number of the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve obtained that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be at all times concerned about, to find a, a strategy to work with that studio, trigger I like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA eager to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I at all times wished to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out virtually as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get fashionable sufficient, it’ll communicate for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, after they approached me, I believe it was, really it was, I believe it was quarter two of 2020, and stated, hey, we, uh, we’re ready the place we’d like, we’d like music, the place we’d like music, and, uh, we’d like it rapidly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They totally had been, they knew what they had been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time period, they usually stated, you already know, we will completely use the bottom recreation stuff, however we wished to not less than attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we will belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these folks by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, you already know what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this appears like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, you already know, I needed to preserve my composure your complete time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, you already know, like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM recreation, uh, and when, however once we obtained achieved with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a type of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, you already know, a mod mission, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I preserve working into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing at all times surprises me like that.
TA: I believe it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who let you know they love your music convey up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I believe each particular person I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks as if the preferred factor and all, and for you that’s in all probability a bizarre feeling as a result of you’ve got this track which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually pleased with, however you may’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any type? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Nicely, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me nicely for it, so like I used to be blissful to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so you already know, in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that might be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however generally studios try this, generally they don’t, and it’s simply utterly as much as their name, however I’ll let you know that they don’t have any drawback with you, you already know, grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so try this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your cellphone, no matter you need to do, they only, they’re simply glad that you simply just like the stuff, and so am I, to be trustworthy, however hey, hopefully someday we will get an official launch, like, that might be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as nicely. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been enthusiastic about as a result of it’s in all probability a tough state of affairs so that you can be in, as a result of folks would who need to help you, like, clearly they’ll purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, but it surely’s an unlucky state of affairs for followers, is all, like, I’ll depart it at that.
AH: It’s not likely like a bizarre state of affairs in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id need to do with that, as a result of they had been utterly up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s fantastic, I simply need to assist, I need to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at house, and I need to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, you already know, oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know individuals are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s fantastic. However, you already know, hopefully, I want to see an official launch someday, however that’s utterly as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they need to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply speak about Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that track? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom recreation or let you know to simply go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They informed me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, you already know, what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly sturdy. Like, that’d be like any individual strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, you already know, like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, you already know, like, no, that’s not how that works. It’s important to serve what got here earlier than you. It’s important to present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually vital for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an govt producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, it’s a must to make it possible for no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, you already know, why you selected this. So actually, for me, taking a look at it after they had been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you suppose serves Doom the perfect. I used to be like, nicely, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, you already know, I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I might need to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is completely different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, you already know, like, Blood Swamps is sort of a bit completely different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s a little bit bit extra, that is, uh, that is like virtually like a standard steel track. And like, in truth, uh, I keep in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, steel. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re stunned. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra virtually conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I might hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they’d be like, you already know, “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Nicely, what did you, you already know, what are you pondering? Present me the devices that you simply’re working with and, you already know, like, let’s simply discuss stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we’d all simply be taught from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from a degree, I simply keep in mind, I’ve to put in writing one thing that if that is the one DOOM recreation I work on, it must be simply, like, means on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to simply take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out the entire limitations which might be like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who provides a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this time limit, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which the whole lot else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We will do various things now.” You already know?
TA: I believe you talked about the way you had just a few weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the help system of these two, it was all potential in the long run. I believe you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a degree, after which I obtained these two ranges, in order that they break up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many instances the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing at the moment?” You already know? And certainly one of us can be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” You already know? And we’d simply discuss backwards and forwards, and someway we might give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I must do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you consider revisiting these songs? Like, did you are feeling like, you already know, possibly I ought to have achieved one thing in another way? Or had been you want, “No, I’m proud of this. I simply need to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was a little bit tiny little bit of, “I need to do issues a little bit in another way.” However, like, I’m speaking to actually, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than the rest. And if one thing was being damaging whereas making an attempt to protect it, these had been the issues that I might attempt to get rid of. An instance of that’s there was a variety of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an condominium that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine choices that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply a number of the compression aspect, like, on the grasp of it, is a little bit aggressive.
So once I went again this time round, I really went by each single a type of songs one after the other and simply gave it a little bit bit extra head room, a little bit bit extra respiratory room, in order that when you hearken to it sufficient instances, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s the entire Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all obtained that therapy the place the brink has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds a little bit bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and possibly like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: You must revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s not possible to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have achieved that. I’ve re-recorded that total report and I see it on YouTube now and again. I’m like that is… this might have been a cool report if it might have sounded okay, and possibly some construction modifications had been completely different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I believe when Metallica did Demise Magnetic, that they had the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this preserve occurring?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so huge that they legitimately have remaining say on the whole lot that they do. So every time they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I keep in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are vivid.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine choices on the highway. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound means higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of once I watched Deafheaven and the way wonderful they sounded stay. You have got so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get outdoors assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it every time I see a band that has a report that’s simply utterly smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew learn how to play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew learn how to play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of men within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s authentic DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did virtually an entire Doom II soundtrack. I believe there was one observe which was on YouTube or two tracks. If you had been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come thus far forward as a musician and did you are feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus making an attempt to be Doom II? How did you method that?
AH: Man. This entire IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unimaginable expertise. It appears like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what obtained me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Nicely, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was an enormous one and I nonetheless get folks which might be like devs that attain out which might be like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So every time I sat down… Each time Marty Stratton despatched me an e mail a few 12 months and a half in the past to ask if I had time to sit down down at QuakeCon final 12 months and speak about some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly fallacious or he simply needs to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an thought.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we provide you with a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA to be able to put that out on the entire streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and the whole lot.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this might simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Wish to go from the Bobby Prince to this if folks wished to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks lately anyhow.
About midway by that entire factor, we had been simply buying and selling battle tales concerning the business and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be pondering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting a little bit emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll let you know what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the actual deal?” Individuals have requested for it perpetually. I’m like, “That will actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “When you’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you simply do on that as nicely to be able to put that out as nicely.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He informed me at the start, he stated, “Hey, you already know, do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the explanation folks need to hearken to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I need to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we obtained stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked backwards and forwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Working from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, you already know, like, what when you did this?” It was solely a pair instances the place he was like, “What when you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They had been at all times cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s capability to throw out issues now and again. He’s only a nice particular person to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the tip of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t consider that that is occurring. I can’t consider that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, stay on stage and announce the whole lot. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these things in order that I can put it out and I can really make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with an enormous studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m positive I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” You already know, like, “Holy cow.” However it’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I wished it to be one thing a little bit bit extra contemporary on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I had been to do this, I’d have to return and utterly remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that must be preserved. Individuals know what that’s.” So you may’t contact that. That’s already achieved. So I believed, “Okay, nicely what if I simply gave them how I might do DOOM II proper now?” Which is precisely what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise choices that I might make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I believe the whole lot slams. I believe it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It obtained formally launched in 2016, but it surely began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s type of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it undoubtedly appears like trendy Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I believe I virtually went in chronological order doing that total soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been enjoying DOOM for the reason that 90s. After I began studying guitar and enjoying quite a bit, I began enthusiastic about the DOOM soundtrack and a number of the songs undoubtedly have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. If you did IDKFA and simply heard the music on the whole, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Degree and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like generally, proper? However it’s completely different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s undoubtedly some inspirations that had been taken from like thrash steel for positive. As a result of I imply, like they at all times talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like enjoying whereas they had been making the sport. So it solely is smart that they’re like, you already know, hey, make one thing related round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, you already know, I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for positive. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten folks saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one track, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I believe I did that only for enjoyable. And I believe I truthfully did that as folks had been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about folks undecided like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a totally introduced recreation, however they had been like, “I’m undecided Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, you already know what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And you then’ll see if I’m the proper particular person for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and folks had been like, oh, and I keep in mind like a bunch of the feedback had been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you hearken to that soundtrack typically? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t hearken to it. Take heed to it. However like each time I’m going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a 12 months. A little bit greater than that if I’m enjoying multiplayer with mates. That’s the factor I stay up for probably the most moreover like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such job on that. It’s unimaginable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing in some unspecified time in the future. That will be loopy. However they’re like means up there, you already know.
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TA: Their film soundtracks are wonderful. I’ve really been watching a number of the motion pictures simply because they’ve achieved the music as a result of I believe the audio design in The Social Community is unimaginable. I believe they did just like the current Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to look at.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re identified for such as you’re indignant and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we lined Blood Swamps being the preferred track which individuals convey up after they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Closing Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a few track which he actually appreciated, however nobody really brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He stated Sport Principle. I need to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s nicely it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, you already know. However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I discuss concerning the music, the DLC is unimaginable. Like that’s my that’s certainly one of my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in current reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and the whole lot. It’s simply an unimaginable DLC. When you don’t have it, you need to go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unimaginable job.
TA: Everybody can purchase that recreation and DLC.
AH: Nicely, I don’t need to appear like a shill. When you prefer it, you prefer it. Like when you don’t, when you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. You already know we’re not not right here to love, you already know try to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like type of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more snug with a variety of the extra aggressive sound design parts being blended in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And the whole lot actually got here collectively on that observe and out every time midway by I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss observe. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss observe. And you already know, two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss observe. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be similar to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that track could be very a lot indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s speak about your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I need to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing probably the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I really simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I believe I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a extremely attention-grabbing factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids a complete bunch however they nonetheless reduce by very well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, you already know, like chugging on stuff and it’s a must to observe that 4 instances, it simply sits quite a bit higher within the combine than when you had been to simply use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing fallacious with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing fashion I simply, I do know what I need when it comes to pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor really final week with the 8 string. This can be a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t suppose they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as nicely to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t keep in mind what they’re known as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they’d maintain the highest finish within the midrange a little bit bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply at all times been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually appreciated at a store known as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually need to put these in my 8 string they usually have a tech there that’s simply unimaginable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be similar to, hey, order these and I’ll simply depart the guitar with you and like per week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I wished, sounds unimaginable.
I’ve obtained my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had over time for probably the most half. I’ve obtained one other Schecter 8 string right here that may be a actually cool coloration. It’s tremendous neat, like, it really modifications from blue to purple.
TA: I believe it’s known as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on certainly one of his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s really fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I really wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I virtually was similar to, right here, you guys, you want this. You already know, like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM recreation, you already know? Like, it must be one thing like a mainline recreation the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. You already know, if you’d like this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And likewise, a part of me is like, no, don’t try this. Like, cling on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I believe it’s 10 to 65. After which sometimes on 6 strings, I similar to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you utilize D’Addario strings? I exploit them largely.
AH: I exploit D’Addario for probably the most half, however I bounce backwards and forwards generally to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve bought virtually each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos means again within the day. Those that had been like, yeah, those that had been, had been mainly copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as nicely too. And I bought all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for probably the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting certainly one of these lately, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So mainly that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a mission I’m engaged on lately they had been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re in all probability proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy levels. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re stable state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper aspect of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein report that used them I at all times wished to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound big.
TA: I wasn’t positive about this as a result of a pal of mine stated he was positive AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve achieved has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from means again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about the whole lot since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging straight into my RME UFX and generally I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that obtained probably the most use on DUSK had been the Moogerfooger low cross filter. Consider it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing changing into type of lo-fi or something. It was at all times run by this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it probably the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a extremely attention-grabbing sound and like that sound that you simply hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like the entire actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive power. It’s virtually just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And identical means with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s only a few of them. I believe there’s yet another that I exploit quite a bit. I don’t suppose I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing unit which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply appears like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply appears like you might be destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s a fantastic impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve completed quite a bit in your profession thus far with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your personal abilities like programming drums, software program, and the way do you steadiness doing that whilst you have a variety of of us who need to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Each day is rather like I don’t know. When you’re not instructing your self one thing on daily basis, that is my prepare of thought. If I’m not making an attempt to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I believe is best, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum equipment I’ve used like two or thrice on two to 3 completely different information, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and learn how to make it sound good then I want to alter that drum equipment. I want to search out one thing completely different and work with it and see if I can get some completely different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my means out of it.
It’s type of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually vital as an artist to just remember to are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, you already know, right here’s one thing that’s utterly unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what it’s a must to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply continuously difficult myself is a part of who I’m for probably the most half. So, it’s simply the way it at all times goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties a very powerful factor turned getting good sleep which lots of people take without any consideration of their twenties. So my query is that making an attempt to have a routine is essential even when you can’t follow it 100%. What does a day in your life appear like proper now?
AH: A day proper now appears like about, a typical day is about anyplace between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I want I’ve came upon, prefer it’s like someplace round there, generally 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel fantastic waking up utterly recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one means I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve obtained to it appears like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t understand how else to elucidate that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and suppose, oh I ought to do that, I ought to try this, I’ll be enthusiastic about the whole lot I must do after which by no means really do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m positive it’s to some extent which I’ll get to that in some unspecified time in the future however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I need to try this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous vital for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which the whole lot simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s type of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock sometimes I’ll now try to do, this has been inside the final 3.5 months, I’ll try to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some motive elevating my coronary heart price actually takes me from hey I might focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser targeted and may get by no matter I must and it additionally places me in a a lot better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you simply love enjoying Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however you already know like I haven’t gone again to it but. I must strive it once more in some unspecified time in the future. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven every time I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be similar to wow.
TA: I imply you in all probability tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I similar to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I might get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of enjoying.
AH: Even with the 3080 I believe I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you strive the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. That they had some actually attention-grabbing decisions with their UI that they only pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting a little bit extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair instances per week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David now and again. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, similar to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply mates. So Leon, me and Leon play it I believe probably the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America enjoying an internet fps recreation is a wild factor however now we have a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I need to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be trustworthy with you. I must department out a little bit extra. Favourite bands outdoors of video video games proper now like for positive they usually’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re stay. I like their decisions on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a nasty track. I might throw out the apparent ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Outdoors of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless suppose and it’s going to be a bizarre selection since you’re like nicely you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on the whole lot he touches and the whole lot he touches is at all times distinctive. However I at all times return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games very well. When you hearken to it outdoors of it, it appears like a extremely bizarre chilly type of soundtrack. Even from the very first recreation which has a variety of attention-grabbing issues like virtually drum and bass decisions. It nonetheless appears like a chilly entrance.
You already know, like a Hitman. And I at all times simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was capable of take so many alternative genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match accurately for that character. So yeah and I believe he labored on the Darktide stuff extra lately which I want to provide a hearken to. Everyone’s informed me that’s unimaginable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 energetic developments every time that recreation got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical state of affairs, when you had no time or funds constraints, when you might compose for any single recreation and any single film which might you choose?
AH: So let’s see for any recreation if it had the proper route I’d actually prefer to take a shot at like a Duke recreation. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that could possibly be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the proper means. And it’s a must to suppose that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the artistic manufacturing is on the time. So if it was achieved in the proper means I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Identical to sit back you already know. Like simply make one thing that’s utterly chill. So these are utterly two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s a fantastic query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I believe he’s nice. However quantity two every time he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t understand how else to elucidate it apart from he does a f***ing loopy improbable job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A kind of two soundtracks I believe I might do can be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many alternative feelings between each of these movies. It’s an enormous curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like you already know, it takes you aspect to aspect. Like each of these movies do that basically nicely.
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TA: You have got a variety of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their current or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the information that they put out as a result of like I’m a die arduous. Even with this final Megadeth report. I might nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No drawback. Completely. However you already know these guys aren’t going to put in writing like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. You already know what I imply? They usually struck it 4 instances. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Journey the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So prefer to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I believe What was the 2016 report that that they had? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I believe that that really had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final observe. I felt like Hardwired was a fantastic observe. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous nicely. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that report. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m undecided if it’s as a result of I’m in search of one thing quicker or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at in the meanwhile. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final observe on that report I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t keep in mind what it’s known as off the highest of my head in the meanwhile. I’m horrible with track names generally. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it appears like a 5 minute and 30 second track. I keep in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this track that it’s only a pleasure to hearken to. I find it irresistible once I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I take pleasure in. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary report that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
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TA: What’s probably the most random piece of music memorabilia that you simply’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a pal that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on arduous instances at one level and he was mates and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m making an attempt to eliminate these things I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s you already know right here’s some money when you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve obtained this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many authentic vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to certainly one of their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this you already know like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply you already know had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 – 6 of them that they gave him accidentally so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I need to say 15 16 17 years now however these previous ones won’t ever go away.
Some folks preserve costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I preserve hand-crafted chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I normally ask this on the finish, however I keep in mind an previous Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more interested in your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I beloved sizzling espresso perpetually however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I’m going the simpler it’s to simply sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t need to be like that’s sizzling. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting the entire caffeine if I need to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d prefer to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous couple of weeks.
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